AP Courses and SAT Test Advice

AP Students and College Counselor

Planning for the SAT and AP exams is an important step for students aiming to enter competitive universities. These standardized tests not only help students measure their academic readiness but also play a vital role in strengthening college applications. At St. Paul American School Hanoi, we emphasize early preparation to maximize opportunities and reduce stress as students approach the critical years of university admissions.

Take a look at advice given by our University Guidance Counselor and AP Coordinator, Mr. Gus Marantos along with College Board Representative Mr. Haike Zhao. Two students from St. Paul, Pham Anh Nhat Quang and Hoang Thieu Nhu shared their strategies and experiences with recently completing some AP classes and taking AP tests.

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Timing for AP Courses and SAT Tests

Late Middle School and throughout High School

Students are encouraged to begin thinking about the SAT and AP exams as early as eighth and ninth grade. The PSAT, offered from grade 8 and mandatory in grades 9 and 10, introduces students to the SAT structure and helps identify academic strengths. While most students take the SAT for the first time in grade 11, some are advised to try it at the end of grade 10 to gain experience and prepare strategically over the summer.

For AP courses, students often start with pre-AP work in grades 9 and 10, then take one or two AP classes in grade 10. Grade 11 is considered the most significant AP year, as many university applications are submitted before students complete grade 12. Completing AP courses and exams early can therefore strengthen applications by demonstrating academic rigor and readiness.

Choosing AP subjects depends on a student’s interests and potential career goals, but advisors recommend balancing courses across humanities, sciences, and math to show versatility. For undecided students, foundational courses like AP Seminar, Computer Science Principles, or Calculus provide broad preparation. Tools such as the PSAT’s “AP Potential” report and College Board’s BigFuture website can help students identify suitable AP subjects.

SAT and AP performance are highly valued by admissions officers. Together, they demonstrate college readiness, critical thinking, and academic resilience, making applicants stand out in competitive pools. Despite the rise of test-optional policies during COVID-19, many top universities are returning to test requirements. Taking the SAT keeps more college options open and ensures students are not restricted by admission policies.

Seminar Transcript from "Gateway to Global Education"

Hanoi Convention Center, September 13, 2025

With Mr. Haike Zhao from the US College Board, Mr. Gus talks about how the SAT and AP Advanced Placement courses/tests open doors to top universities and scholarships. They give students a powerful edge in both global and Vietnamese admissions, proving their readiness, ambition, and academic strength.

Mr. Gus Marantos
University Guidance Counselor and AP Coordinator
College Board Panel

When is the best time to start planning for the SAT and AP exam? 

Mr. Gus: Really, there’s a couple ways to look at this, but what we try to do with both the SAT and AP, is we really start to have them think about both of those in around eighth and ninth grade. 

The PSAT, the practice SAT, essentially, is available beginning in eighth grade. We as a school, we are out for that for our students, and it’s actually mandatory for them to take it in 9th and 10th grade. So we make them take that, and then they prepare for that. From the SAT track, we really start to plan that beginning in eighth, ninth grade as you progress through. What we normally do is have most students take the real SAT for the first time in grade 11.

I also recommend a lot of students, if they want to, to take the SAT for the first time at the end of grade 10. So usually that June exam that’s offered then simply because they get a feel for how the test is as they go into the summer and if they feel like they want to study a bit in the summer to prepare for grade 11, it really helps them.

And for the AP program, usually grade 10 is often the time when students will take their first AP course, for exams. And in our school, the kind of program we like to do is they can do some pre AP works in grade 9 and 10, possibly take one or two courses in grade 10, depending on the student, and then grade 11 is by far the most important AP year that we find, and then moving it into grade 12. And the reason for that is because depending where you apply, a majority of your applications for universities will be done before you even finish your grade 12 year. You have to submit those earlier. So if you’re able to have exam scores and courses in AP completed before you submit your applications, it does help your applications. 

How do students typically choose their AP subjects, and do you have any advice for those who are unsure about how to choose the subjects? 

Mr. Gus: Of course you want to try to plan ahead and see what types of major or program of study, you will be interested in at university. But I also understand, because when I was 17, 16, 17, 18 years old, I did not know what I wanted to do yet. So I also understand that that’s not always possible. 

So one of the things we really try to do is holistic admissions. So we try to have students take APs in humanity, like the English subjects or the social studies, but also in the sciences and the maths. And then that demonstrates to universities that these students are equipped to handle any type of course that they will be involved in at university.

Really look at what you want to do as an interest. And if you have a specific interest, you really need to talk to your advisors and tell them what that is, because there are certain programs that require various AP programs or courses. The earlier you can figure out what it is, you want to possibly study or apply for at university, the better it will be for creating your AP exam plan and the biggest part as some of the students will probably tell you is that we try to complete some of those really important APs by the time they begin their grade 12 years, so that when they apply, a lot of these things that are required are already taken care of.

Mr. Haike Zhao, College Board: If you know your interest, that’s the way to go. What’s the chance that you know about your interest? I’m one of those who had no idea what I wanted to do just said, 17 probably. The recommendation I have is to take those foundational courses. If you don’t know which one you’re interested in, I don’t know if I’m interested in art, if I want to be a software engineer, but I don’t know if I’m ready for that, take foundational courses, for example, AP seminar, English 10, AP business with personal finance, computer science principles, Calculus AB, or Calculus BC. Remember all these courses I just mentioned? They are a kind of future foundation for language, math, and computers. Those three are the three areas where you need a lot of them, whether you go humanities, you go STEM, you go in whatever you want to do, probably, you need two or three or at least one of those skills. 

PSAT can give you guidance, and when you take the PSAT, they give you a report called AP potential. The AP potential provides exactly what AP subjects you have 75% chance or higher to score three and above, statistically which subject you have a chance to be successful. Another one’s A BigFuture website, on the website there is a lot of information on what AP subject is good for you. 

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How do you think the AP and SAT contributes to building a competitive application, not just the exam score, but the overall contribution? 

Mr. Gus: The most important thing is we welcome about 150 universities on our campus every year, and every one of those admission directors say, “When I see a kid that has ACT, SAT and challenges themselves in AP courses, we know that they’re college ready.” That’s by far the number one thing I would say. You set yourself apart from other applicants by challenging yourself with these AP courses.

 Besides the advantages of saving costs and you can get credit at the school, the number one thing those counselors and admissions directors look at are the courses students take, and say, “This student is ready to be a positive contributor at the next university level.”

In my opinion, the SAT and AP is a great tool to pull different students and from various backgrounds in the one objective measure. For example, if you’re a Vietnamese student, Japanese student, or international student, the best way to stand out is to show mastery by the same standard where AP and SAT is part of that. 

What about test-optional policies for university admissions, especially in the US?

For the test-optional policy, we have to remember that the policy really came into effect and grew during COVID time, and the trend now is going back to test required, at a lot of places. But there will still be some test-optional, but here’s my number one answer to that question to all my families. You want to give yourself the most amount of options possible. So if you don’t take the SAT, you’re immediately eliminating a lot of schools that you won’t be able to apply to because they require an SAT score. 

So if you take the SAT and you have that score, that allows you to apply to schools that require an SAT and that do not. And a good example of this is we had a representative from the University of Virginia on our campus, and she said, they are test-optional and they just give a little guideline of saying, “If you have a score in this range, we would say you should submit.” If you have a score below that, then you don’t. And the applications will be considered equally, right? At least by taking the SAT, you give yourself the option. 

And I will also say the number of, let’s just say names, so maybe if you’re talking like the top 100 type universities, they’re all moving back towards tests required. A big part of that is this predictive nature of the SAT. It’s the most subjective tool that these universities can look at to sort of level out all of the students and look at them.

It really comes down to giving yourself the most options, because if you’re looking to apply and you’ve got a deadline coming up and you realize, oh my gosh, they require SAT, I’ve never taken it. You’re not going to be able to apply to that school. So it gives you more options, and it helps your overall application.

College Admissions Tests Planning

The best time to start planning for the SAT and AP exams is in middle to early high school, ideally around eighth or ninth grade. Early exposure through the PSAT, careful selection of AP courses, and taking key exams by grade 11 provide students with the strongest foundation for success. Ultimately, SAT and AP preparation not only equips students academically but also enhances their university applications, helping them stand out in an increasingly competitive admissions landscape.